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WThRemix Winners!
Webgraphics readers get first notice!
The winners list you see below and details about the judging criteia will be posted to the WThRemix site later today.
Grand Prize
- Radu Darvas (entry)
Honorable Mentions
There were no big gaps in the scorring, everyone did well and the numbers were very close together. Congratulations to the five folks above who made the prize cut, and thanks to everyone who donated their time and effort to enter!
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1. April 16, 2003 12:34 PM
2. April 16, 2003 02:01 PM
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Ben Darlow Posted…
That's cool :) Congratulations to Radu, whose design I thought was pretty damned sweet. I'd like to say a big cheers to the judges, whose work has been (certainly for me) a big source of inspiration - without the likes of you, I'd probably still be creating boring cack with tables and font tags...3. April 17, 2003 02:12 AM
4. April 17, 2003 10:52 AM
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Andreas Bovens Posted…
To everybody involved, thanks for this great contest! Just a small question, because:- I am curious (and maybe other people, too)
- this is a good opportunity to get some better understanding of how to use web standards
5. April 17, 2003 11:08 AM
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Tim Brown Posted…
Nate, will we be able to see the judges' ratings of our work?6. April 17, 2003 12:27 PM
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radu Posted…
hmm... so i'm the winner... well, i would first like to congrat nate for his idea, and thank those judges for rating my entry. and also thanks to some other designers that inspired me a lot with their css-works. i would also like to say: of the four honorable mentions, 3 were my favorites. but: congratulations to all of you. so, now i'll wait for those great books...7. April 17, 2003 01:23 PM
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Nate Posted…
Andreas: I'm asking the other judges if they are open to the idea of sharing some of the summary details. Unfortunately, if even one judge objects, I will need to hold onto the information because when I setup the contest and invited the judges, I specifically insured a high level of anonymity as to the individual ratings. Also we need to take all the contestants into consideration, some of whom may not be as pleased to have even their summary scores released. So, I'll add an update here when I know more, but I'd have to suggest that the answer to your question is leading towards no.8. April 17, 2003 01:32 PM
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Steve Taylor Posted…
Yeah, I think the entrants (myself) should be able to see how we ranked. After such agony and ongoing suspense as to the release of a winner.9. April 17, 2003 02:11 PM
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Andreas Posted…
I see. Well, it's just because we'd have the opportunity here to compare different designs and markup for the same content. I agree with you on not showing who said what about which design, but I think giving the average ratings about each design might be interesting. But, as I said: just an idea.10. April 17, 2003 04:07 PM
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Seamus Leahy Posted…
I would find it very helpful if there was feedback on my entry.11. April 18, 2003 12:05 PM
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sarcosos Posted…
I find it very interesting tht you've chosen a winning design that has obvious problems with style show-up in IE6/Win. How should I interpret that? That the next redesign will be 100% XHTML 2.0 and work in no real-life browsers whatsoever? I feel sorry for the top-notched, I think they've hit the ceiling a few times to much.12. April 18, 2003 04:59 PM
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radu Posted…
sarcosos: of course IE6 is a real-life browser, but it has lacks. why should everyone write css-as-usual, just because IE/win can't understand it? or should we better go back to those tags? i couldn't find any lack in my css that causes that problem, and that was annoying enough... there are much more browsers on the market that understand css, some other platforms as well. is it a choise? the css-show must (and should) go on. sometime, IE6/Win will be as overhauled as NN4 today. besides, the W3C site is NOT a real-life site; it should improve the quality of our real-life browsing, but perhaps this requires some NN4-victims, or IE/Win as well...
13. April 18, 2003 05:28 PM
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Seamus Leahy Posted…
I am just plain tired of trying to get things to work in IE 6. I am ready to move on to new things that are supported in Mozilla, Opera, and other browsers.14. April 18, 2003 08:33 PM
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Andreas Bovens Posted…
Radu, try addingposition:relative to the #centercont part in alt1_main.css. Bye bye glitch in IE6/Win. :)
I agree with you about IE6. It lacks in correct css support.
For this contest, I dealt with it by first writing css rules that IE6 likes (!) - afterwards, I checked in Mozilla and Opera, and made use of css2 selectors (that IE6 doesn't support) for tweaking some css-values, so that Mozilla and Opera like the stylesheet, too. Check out my stylesheet if this doesn't make sense.
Is this a good strategy? I don't know. But it is more practical than designing first for Mozilla or Opera and afterwards spend hours making your css edible for a capricious IE6.
15. April 19, 2003 05:03 AM
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radu Posted…
andreas, that's the second time that you have such a simple solution for my css-problems. well, thanks! i did not designed first for opera or mozilla, but for all those browser that should understand it; IE6 as well...16. April 19, 2003 12:19 PM
17. April 29, 2003 06:25 AM
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sarcosos Posted…
Definately, radu, but it is widely used whatever we say and it's most likely not going to go away 'til Microsoft decides to catch up (5 years?). [I somewhat agree that the W3C is a special case, however.] Works now anyways; it wasn't you're fault I'm sure.18. May 23, 2003 10:50 AM
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Andreas Posted…
Apparently, Zeldman covers the WThRemix contest in his new book. That's cool. :-)19. March 13, 2004 11:39 AM
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Web Design Posted…
Radu I think you did a great job but I agree with those who say that a perfect design shouldn't have problems with IE6. Of course it does have lacks but it's a real-life browser, and quite a lot of people have it. It's just a problem that we're to solve if we are professionals. What makes me happy for you is that you're open and ready to grow (it seems so). Good luck!20. April 6, 2006 03:31 AM
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Jason Posted…
Congrats Radu - I thought your design was the best as well. Very polished and professional without being pretentious. I'd also like to say congratulations to everyone else, there were many good entries and everyone should be commended for the effort they put into this worth cause. So, is there any chance that the W3C will actually use Radu's (or anyone else's) design?